Immigration Reform 2013: Gang Of 8 Bill Would Provide Pathway to Citizenship

The gang of eight has turned it’s back on America by deciding that amnesty is now appropriate for those who have broken our laws. How can we make exceptions to a law ? Marco Rubio is the leader in this stupidity and no longer a viable candidate for President.

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6 Responses to “Immigration Reform 2013: Gang Of 8 Bill Would Provide Pathway to Citizenship”

  1. hectorgreencraft Says:

    Please explain and point out what law has been broken. I can respect your opinion as it’s your right, but it feels to me you are calling them criminals due to the strong association illegal has engendered in the states. Substances, procedures, and people can be labeled illegal, yet through no actions of their own do they have the illegal tag placed on them. Please explain how you come to the conclusion that a law was broken, because last I checked to migrate or to be in a place where you are not wanted does not constitute a crime.

    • middleclassmessenge1 Says:

      There are very few if any countries that allow people to illegally cross their border and take up residence while receiving unearned benifits. There is an immigration policy in place which people must apply for to be here and attain citizenship. These illegals have jumped to the front of the line like rude selfish children yet their behavior is rewarded.They should be striped of all assets and deported after a short jail term. Mexico should be billed for the cost of jail time as well as that of any services provided. The possibility of citizenship revoked for ten years as they are criminals they broke the law. This is true immigration reform as opposed to rewarding criminal behavior as the gang of eight would do.

      • hectorgreencraft Says:

        No country allows illegal entry. The definition of illegal is something that’s not allowed. Your answer does not address illegal immigrants who came legally and had their status changed nor does it address the question of what law was broken. It does however beg a few questions. What benefits do these people receive that are unearned? More often than not material gains will not be under their name so what assets should be stripped? As you did not point out what law was broken how would you justify incarcerating them? Am I to assume Mexico would be the only country approached for compensation? Why would another country consider compensating the U.S. for legislation the U.S. decided on? How would you even begin to approach that topic?

        The possibility of citizenship revoked for ten years? Wouldn’t that be less than the possible lifetime bans that can be utilized already?

        Are you familiar with the actual existing legislation? My apologies for the last question, but I felt it’s essential to ask before further debate.

        I wasn’t able to really follow your logic, but thank you for the response.

      • middleclassmessenge1 Says:

        Immigration laws[edit]Main article: United States nationality law
        Main article: List of United States immigration laws
        Immigrants can be classified as illegal for one of three reasons: entering without authorization or inspection, staying beyond the authorized period after legal entry, or violating the terms of legal entry.[46]

        Section 1325 in Title 8 of the United States Code, “Improper entry of alien”, provides for a fine, imprisonment, or both for any immigrant who:[47]

        1.enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration agents, or
        2.eludes examination or inspection by immigration agents, or
        3.attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact.
        The maximum prison term is 6 months for the first offense and 2 years for any subsequent offense. In addition to the above criminal fines and penalties, civil fines may also be imposed.

        Arizona, which passed immigration enforcement law Arizona SB 1070 in April 2010, is currently the “toughest bill on illegal immigration” in the United States,[48] and is being challenged by the Department of Justice as encroaching on powers reserved by the United States Constitution to the Federal Government.[48] On July 28, 2010, United States district court judge Susan Bolton issued a preliminary injunction affecting the most controversial parts of the law, including the section that required police officers to check a person’s immigration status after a person had been involved in another act or situation which resulted in police activity.[49]

        The Mexican Constitution grants citizens freedom to travel. The Constitution stipulates also that the right to cross border migration is authorized only if other applicable laws and requirements are observed, and when certain prerequisites have been met.[50
        Immigration laws[edit]Main article: United States nationality law
        Main article: List of United States immigration laws
        Immigrants can be classified as illegal for one of three reasons: entering without authorization or inspection, staying beyond the authorized period after legal entry, or violating the terms of legal entry.[46]

        Section 1325 in Title 8 of the United States Code, “Improper entry of alien”, provides for a fine, imprisonment, or both for any immigrant who:[47]

        1.enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration agents, or
        2.eludes examination or inspection by immigration agents, or
        3.attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact.
        The maximum prison term is 6 months for the first offense and 2 years for any subsequent offense. In addition to the above criminal fines and penalties, civil fines may also be imposed.

        Arizona, which passed immigration enforcement law Arizona SB 1070 in April 2010, is currently the “toughest bill on illegal immigration” in the United States,[48] and is being challenged by the Department of Justice as encroaching on powers reserved by the United States Constitution to the Federal Government.[48] On July 28, 2010, United States district court judge Susan Bolton issued a preliminary injunction affecting the most controversial parts of the law, including the section that required police officers to check a person’s immigration status after a person had been involved in another act or situation which resulted in police activity.[49]

        The Mexican Constitution grants citizens freedom to travel. The Constitution stipulates also that the right to cross border migration is authorized only if other applicable laws and requirements are observed, and when certain prerequisites have been met.[50
        Let’s keep it simple if you had a neighbor and when they went to bed you crawled through an open window and took up residence in their attic it is the same principal. The only people that are ok with this are illegal aleins, those who hate America and wish it back to Mexico and politicians. Politicians in America today will sell their soul for a vote. Which of these are you?

  2. hectorgreencraft Says:

    Thank you for the response, it’s very insightful.

    I am none of the options that you mentioned. Thank you for taking the time to respond. I wish you the best of luck with your blog.

    • middleclassmessenge1 Says:

      Thank you as well for your comments. I appreciate your participation and look foreward to future discussions and debates.

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